A while back, I posted these flies and said I would have to try them out. I tied a large one in size 10 and stared at that thing and imagined where I would throw it and how big a dropper I could put on it. Well, I did get the chance to test the size 10 out earlier this year and was disappointed. It would probably work just OK by itself, but holding a dropper up was not a good idea. The weight of the hook alone was a detriment to the fly itself. The percentage if body below the surface was to great to keep the rest of the fly from sinking. This was more evident when a dropper was added. So, after reviewing, I feel the large sizes were a failure. Perhaps a size 12 on a light wire hook would be a better size to test. I have thrown the smaller #14s and 16s, but not enough to have a good feel for how they will work. They do float better than the larger sizes though. More testing to come!